Hot time in the old town tonight: Board meeting @ 6:30pm

You don’t want to miss the Board meeting down at Sheridan tonight. Students are madder than hell and for good reason. They’ll be presenting tonight during Citizens to be Heard on this whole degree debacle. And who is fanning the flames? Trustee Sprague. Yikes.

From our friends at PAC AAUP:

“Sure universities will like that you’ve gotten that degree, but other than that, someone who just gets an AA or AS and tries to enter the workforce is essentially in the same category as the drop out.  And if you don’t like how that sounds, I’m sorry, but that’s the real world.  The concentration is really just to make students feel better and carries no real value.”  (Trustee Gene Sprague, The Ranger, Oct 27, 2014) (
Same category as the drop out? Then why isn’t the rest of the country just dropping all AA and AS degrees?  Then what’s the point in having AA and AS degrees at all?  Maybe to some, it DOES matter.
“Just to make students feel better and carries no real value.”   Is that all that we are doing when some students choose to declare a major in AA Humanities or AA Mexican American studies or AA in Psychology?
The data seems to suggest that an Associates Degree matters.  See the table below.

Employment Projections

Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment

Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment

Education attained

Unemployment rate in 2013 (Percent)

Median weekly earnings

Doctoral degree

2.2 $1,623

Professional degree

2.3 1,714

Master’s degree

3.4 1,329

Bachelor’s degree

4.0 1,108

Associate’s degree

5.4 777

Some college, no degree

7.0 727

High school diploma

7.5 651

Less than a high school diploma

11.0 472
Note: Data are for persons age 25 and over. Earnings are for full-time wage and salary workers.

Source: Current Population Survey, U.S. Department of Labor, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

These education categories reflect only the highest level of education attained. They do not take into account completion of training programs in the form of apprenticeships and other on-the-job training, which may also influence earnings and unemployment rates. For more information on training, see: and

BLS has some data on the employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population 25 years and over by educational attainment, sex, race, and Hispanic origin online.

The Census Bureau also has some data on educational attainment online.

Last Modified Date: March 24, 2014


  1. Wow, with my AAS from a community college I got a System Designer job for a helicopter company. This was an engineering position. I sure didn’t feel like a drop out! What a ridiculous thing to assert.

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